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fredcb
Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 1:54:42 AM
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It is often stated that God created everything out of nothing. "Ex-nihilo" being the term used to express such.
I have been unable to find any Biblical reference that really supports this idea. Hebrews 11:3 is as close as I can get to a reference that speaks expressly about that formation of the worlds.
Yet here I read that, "by the word of the Lord, things which are seen were not made of things which are visible" To me this appear to be saying that things which are visible are made from things that are invisible, which is a lot different than saying they were produced from nothing.

Those who contend for the theory of Evolution hold the view that "Nothing made Something out of Nothing" which to my way of thinking is totally illogical. From nothing one must surely end up with nothing?

But is the view that God made Everything out of Nothing any better? Surely Nothing can come from Nothing?

On the other hand it seems more plausible to think that, "Something (God) made Something (amounting to Everything) out of Something"

Hence this leads me to think that creation was more than likely "Ex deo"

What are others views on this matter? What are pros and cons for ex-nihilo creation as opposed to ex-deo creation?

Friendly feedback most welcome.

FredCB
brentriggs
Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 7:14:50 AM
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Joined: 2/17/2008
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Location: Washington, OK
Fred,

I would proposed that your logic is correct in understanding the problem, but off base in your conclusion.

You correctly rule out the absurd notion that "once there was nothing, and it become something" which is the basis for Darwinian evolution and uniformitarianism... not mention it "allows" men to deny the that God exists. In essence, the UNIVERSE becomes God.

But I would contend that is makes PERFECT sense that God created "something from nothing". Why?

Because to say that "something" besides God has existed eternally, promotes "something" to equality with God because "something" would have to be self-sustaining, UNcreated and eternal. To think that a non-personal "something" besides Almighty God fits that description, is not logical, nor Biblical.

We are correct in saying "something cannot come from nothing". To believe otherwise is simply to suspend reality for our own bias. Something cannot come from nothing WITHOUT THERE BEING SOMEONE CAPABLE OF DOING IT.

In reality, "something" did NOT come from "nothing". "Something" was created by God where previously "nothing" existed. If God is eternal, self-existing and uncreated, then we have our FIRST CAUSE answer. God is the "something" that has always existed.

Then the question remains "is God capable of creating something that previously did not exist?" Of course the answer to that is an easy, resounding YES!

Don't confuse "yes" with our ability to comprehend it. After all, God created US when we did not previously exist. So to say that something is impossible ("God created something that previously did not exist") simply because WE (who are created by same God we are trying to comprehend) do not understand it, is the pinnacle of "illogical".

Even without Scripture, the unescapable conclusion is that "something" at one time did not exist or "something" becomes "self existing and self sustaining" thus making "something" God.

God is the First Cause. God did indeed create "something from nothing" in one sense. In another, God created "something from something" because God is the Something that existed first and all things were created out of Him.

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