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The Presidential Candidates and Election Options
brentriggs
Posted: Sunday, February 17, 2008 5:39:47 PM
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What is your opinion about the candidates? Who do you want to win? Why? How will these candidates affect America?

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Kendra
Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 1:04:34 PM
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I like that Huckabee clarified his stand on his Christianity. I like that he has stated where he stands as a Christian. I believe we need a true Christian to guide this country. I also believe that America has dumped real Christianity all together. We don't have to fight someone to worhsip the way we want to so the threat is not relevant any longer. A President that believes seriously would and could have a serious, positive impact on America.
Would a true Christian, American President be taken seriously by other countries?
Would he be respected by our government?
Would our people turn from their wicked ways if a Biblical, Christian president held office with the proper Biblical authority given him? No denominational ties governing, just the God given tie that binds true Biblical Christians.
My thoughts about the rest of the candidates are very bleak. I feel that America's time is drawing very near to finding out what the real statistics are for those who believe what God says he is going to do, compared to those that say they believe in God.
I am not sure that any candidates motives are truly honorable any more. I'm not sure that the people really have a say in any of it any more.
Change in the right direction would be wonderful, but I like a lot of Americans, don't think that American politics has its untainted, undefiled, and back scratching ability to be a good, reliable means of governing America any longer. If you dig deep enough and far enough we all could find that most of us have ulterior motives for just about everything we do.
To be solely devoted to Jesus Christ, not the means and measures that we have according to man, that everything we do, would honor Him and Him alone would and is foreign matter to America and its people as well as much of its houses of worship today.
America cannot be divided on where God is in our church and state issues, if we are even considering those for the office of President who would be willing to compromise God, for the sake of making everyone feel comfortable in America, by removing God from the publics eyes, due to the ones who say that just the mention of His name or His sons name bothers them, then we are doomed. One day every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. America and all of the other continents alike. Every president, king, queen, prince, princess, and all the little people. It matters not who or what you are, this will be the new kingdom, the new heaven and the new earth. With the very best leader in control. I cannot wait!!!!!



Kendra
brentriggs
Posted: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:22:05 AM
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You are correct. This world will be neither good nor Godly until Jesus reigns over it.

America is long past being a "Christian" nation, even though we still have many Christians who live here. We are never called to "Christianize" a nation but this is the emphasis and hope of many groups today.

We are not called to "Christianize" a nation, but we are called to spread the Gospel to the people. If individuals turn to God, then families turn, communities turn, cities turn, States turn, and then nations become "Christian".... such was the history of the United States early on.

I think the Christian groups today that struggle for, and hope to put Christian leaders in office to "turn this country around" have got it backwards. I think the focus is on evangelization of individuals. A Christian nation is by-product of a Christian people.

Whichever President we get, will be a reflection of the people as a whole. That's why I do not believe we will ever see a genuine Christ-following, God honoring man in the office of President again in the America as we know it today.

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Gary
Posted: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:30:29 PM
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I too, am not impressed with the choices out there. Huckabee would be my personal choice. The Bible says that "God makes and removes Kings." I believe two things for sure. Nothing takes God by surprise and whom ever gets elected will be according to God's overall plan. We are to preach the gospel in season and out of season. Our "job" is to evangelize as long as we are here, no matter who, what or where. We also need to pray for our leaders no matter who they are. We also have to remember, God is able to send revival to America. Let us continue to pray for that.

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brentriggs
Posted: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 4:31:41 PM
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I agree. Whoever we get will be there because God ordains it. The Bible is clear on that.

Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. (NKJV)

Sometimes, as Christians, we don't like that and strive to find reasons we "failed" to get someone elected. Now don't get me wrong... we should vote, campaign and participate in our great country to elect those officials we believe will best represent God's will for our country.

However, we should never fret, fear or be anxious about the results. Paul left no wiggle room: there is NO authority except from God, and whoever gets elected was appointed by God for His reasons.

Yeah, but what about when a plainly ungodly man gets elected? There are a number of reasons God allows this (and many I'm not smart enough to think of):

God may be allowing judgment to occur; this is certainly becoming more probable as our country descends into wickedness and drowns in innocent blood from murder, abortion and euthanasia; God may use wicked rulers to refine His Church; God may be handing us over to our own desires, removing His protection; much like when Israel chose wicked Kings; God may be allowing us to "reap what we sow"; There are no doubt many other (and probably better) reasons God may "appoint" the wicked to reign over us.

The point is, whoever ends up being elected be elected because God has ordained it to be so.

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Gary
Posted: Friday, February 22, 2008 11:48:52 AM
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Come on everyone. I know you have got to have some thoughts about what is going on with the Presidential race. I am sure there are lots of you with a lot of great opinions.

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Gary
Posted: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:24:38 AM
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IF CHRIST WAS ON THE BALLOT, HOW WOULD YOU VOTE?

I know that is pretty far fetched, but I just want to get our minds started and alert to what I am about to say. It will probably be short and sweet. Well, maybe short, but not necessarily sweet.
Let's all examine our hearts and minds. Honestly, how would we vote? Christ would, among other things, run on the platform of putting the Bible back in school, no abortions, man and woman only in marriages, no homosexuality, absolute right and wrong, and accountability. I know this list could go on for a long while, but I am sure you all get the point.
Let's ask ourselves this, not only how we would vote, but how do you think America would vote. If nothing else, it would be interesting. And probably scary as well.
Ok, here is the short I was talking about...... The only hope for America is to turn back to Christ, period. I know that won't sit well with people today. But I believe it to be true.

We need to quit handing out condoms in our schools and instead (now here's an idea) hand out Bibles. The youth is the future, and the future church. They need to be taught according to Christ, not according to the world. Our society and even churches today are failing to do this. Again. I could go on and on with other instances, but for the sake of time and space, I will not. Maybe at another time I will.
I wish I was wrong, but I believe if Christ was on the ballot for President of these United States in today's society.......He would not be voted in.(I didn't say lose, because Christ never loses.)
Like I said that is only my opinion and I pray that it would not be so., but....................??

Now, back to reality. We as Christians need to understand that God is in full control of what happens in the world. All things are known by Him. Nothing takes Him by surprise. He even knows who will be our
next president, AND whomever it is, it will be His will. Let's Look at Daniel 2:19-22

"Then was the secret revealed unto Daniel in a night vision. Then Daniel blessed the God of heaven.
Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his:
And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:
He revealeth the deep and secret things: he knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with him."

God still makes and removes "kings" for His Glory and His will. That, by all means, doesn't mean we shouldn't be concerned about what happens. We as Christians should always be in prayer for each other, our country AND the leaders of our country. Actually we are required to do so.
1 Timothy 2:1-4
I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

James 5:16 "Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."



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brentriggs
Posted: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 8:32:12 AM
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The only hope for any society to be good, prosper and live in peace is for individuals to turn to Jesus. Leadership reflects those who are being led.

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Bill Ecton
Posted: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 7:36:42 PM
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Interesting that you should make this satement. "Leadership reflects those who are being led."

The question is, Who is doing the leading? According to what I see, it is the media and that is as liberal as you can get unless you watch Fox. Fox caters to the right and CNN defintely caters to the left. I am amazed at the swings in public opinion after the mass media makes its statements on TV. Doesn't seem to be much clear thinking going on in this country. There does seem to be a lot of, What's in it for me?"
brentriggs
Posted: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 3:50:05 PM
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Bill Ecton wrote:
Interesting that you should make this satement. "Leadership reflects those who are being led."

The question is, Who is doing the leading? According to what I see, it is the media and that is as liberal as you can get unless you watch Fox. Fox caters to the right and CNN defintely caters to the left. I am amazed at the swings in public opinion after the mass media makes its statements on TV. Doesn't seem to be much clear thinking going on in this country. There does seem to be a lot of, What's in it for me?"


You hit the nail on the head.... WHAT's IN IT FOR ME? is the motivation of both the politician and the voter who conspire together to take from those who earn, build and discipline themselves.... to give to those who take, demand and live on impulse.

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brentriggs
Posted: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 3:50:06 PM
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Bill Ecton wrote:
Interesting that you should make this satement. "Leadership reflects those who are being led."

The question is, Who is doing the leading? According to what I see, it is the media and that is as liberal as you can get unless you watch Fox. Fox caters to the right and CNN defintely caters to the left. I am amazed at the swings in public opinion after the mass media makes its statements on TV. Doesn't seem to be much clear thinking going on in this country. There does seem to be a lot of, What's in it for me?"


You hit the nail on the head.... WHAT's IN IT FOR ME? is the motivation of both the politician and the voter who conspire together to take from those who earn, build and discipline themselves.... to give to those who take, demand and live on impulse.

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lavonbaker
Posted: Monday, March 10, 2008 9:00:24 AM
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What is my opinion of the candidate? There is not one, except Mike Huckabee and he's out of the running, who is a true follower of Jesus Christ; therefore, none of them are worthy of the office of President of the United States of America. I am praying that at least Huckabee will be John McCain's choice for Vice-president.
I'm concerned about the direction the U.S. will take toward Israel should Obama be elected. If Iran, for example, attacks Israel, who will Obama side with? The answer is too obvious and God PLAINLY states in His Word what will happen to those who oppose Israel.
I agree that God is in complete control and whoever is elected will be a reflection of the judgment that God has in store for this nation. It's happened time and again to many nations in the Bible and it will happen to America because of the leadership and the apathy of those who claim to be Christians.
As I understand the Scriptures, the United States as a leading nation, is not mentioned in the revelation of the end time. As true followers of Jesus Christ, we have the privilege to continue to pray for revival for this nation and the responsibility to draw nigh to God as individuals.
"Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done on earth as it is in Heaven."
Jemima
Posted: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:37:50 AM
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Well, I also support Huckabee and also hope that he will be McCain's VP pick. I do believe strongly we should try and support the best candidates for leadership knowing full well that God is in control even if they are not elected. This was harder for me to grasp years ago.

The bottom line is no matter who gets elected at any point in time, until the time of the new heaven and new earth, at no point will sin be removed and life idyllic. We can strive for the unattainable goal of perfection while trusting God, knowing it is not currently possible. We follow Him to the best of our ability, try and live by Godly principles, spread the word around about Jesus, and leave the rest in His hands.
brentriggs
Posted: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:56:13 AM
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I don't think McCain, a hardcore Beltway insider and liberal, could stomach Huckabee; although, Huckabee is a "government program" liberal himself.

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Jemima
Posted: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:25:49 PM
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A government program liberal? Is he? I guess I'm not as up on him as I should be. The other problem with politics is we often don't know the whole truth and we don't comprehend all the issues and the potential consequences to all the potential decisions. So we often judge by what is being revealed to us instead of what we should know.

brentriggs
Posted: Thursday, April 10, 2008 3:18:01 PM
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Well folks, it's April 10, where he think we stand in all this presidential business? It's got a liberal Republican and what appears to be the most liberal, racist, anti-American Democrat candidate that could possibly be. What a choice.

Obama is blatantly playing the race card even know his only experience with race appears to be that his black father got a white girl pregnant and ran off. He has attended a church for the last 20 years that is viciously anti-American and anti-white and has more claim to be a Muslim and Christian.

McCain will obviously keep growing government at an exponential rate just like his predecessor, but at least he is not a coward who will sit down and discuss with the terrorists how they will destroy our nation like (insert a Democrat name here.).

What a choice. I'm torn between wanting someone as horrible as Clinton or Obama to get into office who once and for all show how destructive Democratic ideology is versus not wanting to have to suffer through what is going to happen to the country if a Democrat does get into office, and if they control the Congress.

But I'm not sure that's much worse than McCain being the president and the Democrats controlling the Congress. Not one of America's more proud moments.

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Gary
Posted: Thursday, April 10, 2008 4:04:28 PM
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I agree with Brent. That sums it all up nice and neat ......and scary. !!!!!!!

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S. Edwards
Posted: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:22:41 AM
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It may seem scary - but (as has been said several times in this converation) it is God who raises Kings up and it is God who brings them down. I'm on His side - so I can't wait to see what He is going to do next.......it looks like He might be sending His Son to come and get us.....
Gary
Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:40:53 AM
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Very nice, S.Edwards, very well put.
I, too am on His side, and I agree. He very well could be putting that in motion as we speak.


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brentriggs
Posted: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:28:47 PM
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In general, God gives us the rulers we actually want as whole society.

We want the government handouts and the "victim mentality" personally, but bellyache about it nationally. In the end, God appoints all rulers, and like Israel and their kings, we will have ours.


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